Watching the Unschooling Pieces Crumble - Part 10 of Dealings With a Guru

The blog that should not even need to happen….

I had placed my blog on the backburner so that I could release the hold that my experience had on me and allow others to move in to the forefront to reflect on their own dealings with the Martins. It did not take long before I was invited to a group on facebook that would serve as a database of collected facts and personal experiences regarding Dayna and her multiple business ventures. This clearinghouse page is a temporary tool that will be used to create a final document of facts to showcase Dayna and her dealings with the public. This group is not a free-for-all as only individuals with solid data have the ability to add factual information that is being followed-up on and researched. The truths being uncovered are immensely disturbing to me, but it is crystal clear that it is necessary, at the same time. Dayna is good at her day job. She has managed to manipulate and defraud families for a decade or more. You can view the collected data here……………..

https://www.facebook.com/groups/414499508667539/?fref=ts

It has been brought to my attention that although Rethinking Everything Conference refunds were offered a few weeks ago, that agreement has now been withdrawn and registration is now completely non refundable, even for those that were affected by the deceit. There are differing reasons why people are choosing to request refunds, but they almost all boil down to the fact that the product is not what they originally paid for. I would like to request that those of you who find yourself in this position, file a complaint with your credit card company and send them any factual information you have.

The following posts have been made by members of the Martin family the last few days………….

When Dayna was asked why she could not just be honest and stop deleting messages, Dayna responded with this statement, before going on to talk about her personal feelings in the same group….…..

“This group is about the RE conference and as I told you, if you want to discuss my personal life further, you can continue to message me like you have. This is crossing in to harassment at this point.”

From Joe Martin:

“ok this is gone on long enough. All you mean ass bullying ass woman, mothers, leave my fuckin wife and family alone. You call yourselves advocates for family. Your all evil and cold. Nothing more. (make sure you screen capture that)”

My response:

I agree that the lies have gone on long enough. I would like to put this behind me, but the manipulation of the public and the fraud that we are uncovering honestly seems never ending. I know that you may see this as some “witch hunt”, but we are actually BEING advocates for families. We are all working on this to protect these very families from the assault that Dayna has dished out for years. Evil and cold are the last thing that we are. We truly care about our children. We do not wish for them to be used as pawns in your chess game any longer.

From Dayna Martin (posted in the RE conference group):

“There are no "sides" to take with this issue. It has gone from my personal Facebook account being exploited and used to send my personal messages to others. I have been threatened with messages such as, "Ha ha! you're goin' down, Sweetheart."

I have been bullied, lied about slandered and hurt beyond anything I have ever experienced before. CPS showed up on our doorstep yesterday because of this issue. They are returning this Friday. This is my worst nightmare and it is all because of this insane blog. I would never, ever, in a billion years do the extreme things that I am being accused of. HOW can I fight this except to reach out and ask you all for help.

I've made some mistakes, but NO ONE deserves this and to view it as the writings from a sane person is mindblowing to me. It is so incredible people are standing by watching this happen.

I have anxiety attacks and nightmares from this bullying. I can't sleep. I can't eat. This is WRONG.

I have screenshots of Patti's daughter Sydney, messaging my daughter Tiffany telling her that Jen Green has gone over their house and screamed and sworn at her telling her to write negative accusations about me and this little girl is scared. It is beyond abuse and manipulation.

I am scared that I will lose my children. Please help us in any way that you can. I am reaching out to you as a community.

There is SO much to share about what really happened in Texas. I have respected everyone involved, but there comes a point when you can't take the abuse anymore and one needs to stand up for themselves. I am scared to come out there. I am afraid of the mental instability of those out there doing this to me. Calling CPS on us was just beyond slandering and bullying. HOW can anyone be so cruel as to do that to us?!!”

My responses:

·         I would love to believe there are no sides, but I think it is now too late for that. You singlehandedly placed a rift in the unschooling world when you appeared on the scene as an expert in 2006. I do wholeheartedly believe, though, that unschooling will recover and now the community will reemerge as a whole unit once this is over.

·         This message that you refer to as a threat is no such thing. That is someone sharing their disgust with you. That does not equal someone placing you or your family in physical danger. Are you saying this is the type of message you refer to as “threatening messages placing you in danger”?

·         You continue to use these words bullying and slandering. I have not seen one ounce of that in my blogs, anyone else’s blogs, or the clearinghouse group. I have not contacted you in any form, at all. I have written my own experience and responded to your claims posted in facebook and your blog. I have asked no one to come after you. I have not contacted authorities of any kind. Also, you do not seem to be doing your own research, AT ALL. Slandering involves lies. I have not lied about one thing, whether you are in the mood to admit it or not.

·         CPS showed up at your door? Many thoughts have run through my mind since I read that. My first thought was, did they really and how can this be proven? I simply do not believe you. Were you the only one home? Was Joe present? The kids? Can you help us to understand how terrifying that was and what they ended up saying when they left? Do you have documentation?

·         I can’t say I am surprised that you would blame my blog for the CPS visit and not your own actions over the years, but really? Have you seen the clearinghouse? Have you seen the documented evidence of your own wrongdoing that goes back over a decade? It was not me and there are plenty of other people who are pissed that you got away with this for so long. My blog gave others the ability to come together over common traumatic events and those events all involve you.

·         I have racked my brain to figure out why the CPS story would appear now. I am wondering if this is a way to get out of going through with RE, maybe? Are you waiting until the last minute to cancel and then run off with the money? Could it simply be a way to elicit more support for your “poor me” cause? I really don’t know. I hope it is not true because I don’t actually hate you enough to wish that on your children.

·         You say you would never do these things you are being accused of. So, why are you not telling your side of the story out in the open? You are treating everything the same you did a few months back. You do not want to speak to more than one person at a time, so you ask for people to send you private messages to spread your lies in the safe confines of your lie bubble. I agree the things I have said are pretty damn awful and I should know because I lived them. So, your side please?

·         You bash people for believing my own insane writings, but what about the dozens of people that have come forward to tell their own stories. You cannot say that I am doing this to you, dear. You are doing this to you. I thought you believed in the LOA. How is that working for you now?

·         Time to pay attention folks! She has now taken her problems that she created and has made it your responsibility to fix it. She is no longer just a simple manipulator. She is now asking for you to join a manipulator community so you will be responsible for the outcome and not her. These sentences stand out to me…..” It is so incredible people are standing by watching this happen” and “Please help us in any way that you can. I am reaching out to you as a community.” Help her if you feel so inclined, but educate yourself on what is really happening before you do.

·         I have no human words to express the motherfucking lie you are attempting to convey about the screenshots you claim to have of Sydni and Tiffany. I will allow Patti to respond to this and will only add…..where are the screen shots? Who is dragging the kids in to this exactly? Are you getting so desperate that you will now begin using photoshop to produce them? If you do, then find a way to timestamp it so it reflects when these Sydni and Tiffany conversations happened.

·         Why are you scared to come out here? Is this another way for you to get out of coming to RE? I have not threatened you once. I have not sent anyone to threaten you once. I am not a violent person and I am so uninterested in ever seeing you again that my family and I won’t even be in town while you are. I promise you, I will not harm anyone in your family, but you also have made a commitment to make this conference happen, so you probably should keep that promise. Keep your promise, even if you look like an ass doing it.

·         Did you really just call me mentally unstable? The one who attempted to get you help? You are a sorry excuse for a human being. That is just all there is to that statement.

The following is an email that Dayna wrote to respond to a question that asked why she took kids in to a bar……………………

I never brought a child into a bar. Ever. There may have been children of the parents that I was with who came to check in with their parents/caregivers at certain times, but it was a family event! There were kids and parents together everywhere. Also, they knew that I was under the influence. It was the responsibility of the parents to care for the children whom they brought. It would be irresponsible for them to leave me with any kids to care for on my time off, knowing I had been drinking. If a child followed me in there without me knowing, it surly wasn't my fault or responsibility. I don't remember that being the case though. There were beer tents and they were everywhere It wasn't my responsibility Period*I admit, I was very drunk It was hot out and everyone started drinking early Any other questions? It was irresponsible for them to put kids in my care, knowing I was drunk. I am sick of the blame being passed onto me. I am owning my mistakes. This was not one of them.

My response:

I think this topic may need to be covered again. This is Texas and it is not illegal to take kids in to a bar or a liquor store. The problem is not that you took them in to a bar. The problem is that you USED them to go to the bar.

The bar that we are referring to could hold about 50 people, so there was the actual bar area and then there were tables. The kids said, “we wanna go to the trampoline”. I said “we are walking that way and will get there in just a bit”. Dayna said, “hey, I can take them because I know that they are wanting to spend time with me and I can jump with them”. We said, “ok, cool, we will meet you there”. It took us about 45 minutes to mosey there. I expected them to be done and waiting, but they had just gotten into the line. I said, “wow, why are you just now in line?” and left it at that when I just got stares. It was after Dayna was gone that Sydni and Alannah told Patti, “hey, btw it was really weird having to sit in that bar with Dayna while she got drinks”. Then it all made sense. This is why it took so long for them to get to the trampoline and why they were barely in line. She made herself responsible by offering to take them. The kids said they even asked her to not go in the bar, but she said it was ok and had them sit at a table and watch her have 2 double vodkas. The kids just wanted to spend time with her. The time she had promised for days on end.

Patti Stephens has contacted me to let me know that they are having an extremely rough day today. The fact that Dayna has now involved Sydni (10yo) in another lie is really taking its toll on their sanity and peace. They are working to provide a response to Dayna’s claims and I will post it on my blog and in the clearinghouse when it is completed and sent to me…….