Watching the Unschooling Pieces Crumble - Part 6 of Dealings With a Guru

Wrapping up some more loose ends…..

Yesterday was a crazy day. I put out blog 4, thinking I was adding some unnecessary information in there, but so many thought it cinched up some gaps. Blog 5 was originally a part of blog 4 that had to be separated because of length. Blog 5 brought with it some interesting feelings. I was overwhelmed with the posting of the sex convo, as I did not know it’s relevance for sure, but felt I still needed to reflect some more of the fuckupedness that we dealt with. I know, how could I need more evidence? Anyway, as many of you know, I deleted the paste of that message because I appreciated the announcement of refunds for anyone that felt like they needed to cancel their RE registration. Here is the statement from the Martin’s…….

“Due to the recent situation with someone slandering me, I wanted to reach out and let any of you know that if you have decided to not attend due to what you read, please let me know and we will refund 100% of your registration. Dayna”

I was absolutely relieved to see that some of what I felt needed to be taken care of, was in fact, put out there as an offer. There were 2 people that received their money back pretty quickly and it was verified that it came from the RE account. Ok, some truth in business practices have been restored. Until this morning, that is. An individual asked a question this morning, on the RE page and the deleting began again. The question was about the refunding of money. There was also an email sent to the Martin’s, in regards to seeking a refund for the conference. Once the comment was deleted, this person was deleted and blocked from the group entirely and a message was returned to her, about the refund that stated it would be 45 days AFTER the conference was over, before she would receive the money. And then a second individual received the same message. Why is this still happening? In addition, there are registrants that have messaged me about the fact that the Martin’s are still deleting their posts, you are making them mad, proving my point, and effectively causing people to not attend, that just had simple questions or concerns.

The word on the street is that maybe they have run out of money. Ok, so without having to go in to the detail of the 40K she told us that she had already made from RE, let’s say that they are short on money. You would then say, wow, we did not realize that so many people would want refunds and we just have no more money to offer at this time. It will be after RE before we can get you the money. That would be a respectful explanation of what was going on. But instead, there is the continued blocking, deleting, and lying, when they just said that they would refund the money 12 hours before. My question is this…..why on earth is anyone going to believe this? You have done nothing to show you are a trustworthy company and once the conference is over, I believe you will be finding yourself in the negative or you will be somehow secretly pocketing the profit while saying you have none. Track records do not lie. Here is the message sent to those that have been chosen to not receive the refunds right away………

"We are happy to issue you a refund. You will receive the refund for registration within 45 days after the Rethinking Everything event. If you have any questions, please let us know."

Next issue with the refund message. The Martin’s just claimed that I am slandering them, which again, would mean that I am lying and none of these messages are real. So what you did was just blame me for your loss of profit, instead of yourselves. There is no telling what will be done with that information, but I will take a personal guess that it will be used for your gain with profit and loss paperwork. Always lookin to get the benefit.

Money is so very strange with all of these occurrences. Dayna cannot use her credit card at the grocery store because Joe will get mad, but then she insisted on purchasing a $260 dress for my daughter, which empties her account at home, and then she lies to Joe and tells him that my daughter just borrowed the money, AND then she is wanting to use a conference credit card to run away with us and go buy land.

I would again like to share with you the offer from Kathryn Baptista…….

If you are not refunded by the RE conference when you request one, Kathryn Baptista has offered to give a scholarship to anyone who would like to attend another conference in its place. The link to that conference is here................

http://www.northeastunschoolingconference.com/

The Sparkling Martin Blog:

I do not understand why this occurred, but the Sparkling Martin blog is now password protected and invitation only. What is accomplished by doing this? The blog cannot be seen now to allow for them to tell their story and I cannot reply to anything that was brought up because I cannot see it. No one, unless invited, can get their side of things to even see which one of us is more credible. I would love for someone to explain what they have to gain from this? Are they in there plotting some revenge against me? Is she describing in detail all of the pain I am putting her through so others will feel more sorry for her? So, when someone inquired, Joe said that the “blog is taking a nap”.

Joe’s comment on a blog:

This message was posted on a blog yesterday. I don’t know what Joe is thinking, but I was under the impression that they were trying to give the world a view of their innocence in all of this. They are pretending to not say nasty things, while going and doing it in secret anyway. Here is the message from Joe………

“I can not even Begin to tell you how much it saddens me to see your comment. Dayna was treated like shit by these people in real life and now online. They wanted Dayna to move in with them and be a 2nd wife. the GREENS are crazy people. Dayna said no sorry and baam fatal attraction all day long. SOrry to post this here but i can not find any other way to contact you.”

Soooooooo, what? It is getting WAY clearer at this point. We knew that something was being said to convince him that we were wrong and she was right. But what could it be? Well, this does explain it in very clear terms. Apparently, Dayna was able to assemble a story that would get her off the hook for every single thing that happened in Texas. My educated guess of how this played out is………..

1.      We treated her like shit while she was here, by providing her with every need she had, but she tells Joe that she was held hostage here and she had nowhere to escape to.

2.      I am treating her like shit, online, by telling the truth after she lied about me to everyone she spoke to, but she tells Joe that all 15 of us are making everything up, even Patti that had her money refunded, due to Dayna being unable to complete her mission.

3.      We wanted Dayna to move in with us by telling her that she would have a safe place to come to IF she had to leave her abusive husband, she told us that she was going to lie to her children and say they were going on vacation, so that she could get away safely with her kids, but she tells Joe that we demanded that she move here immediately be our 2^nd wife.

4.      Dayna begged us to let her find escape with us, while attempting to offer to support us with all of her endeavors and we would never have to work again because she will be getting 50K an episode for her UK unnanny show, but she tells Joe that she said no way and then we kicked her out for not obeying. Which is it, was she sick with something or was she our slave that week? Pick one.

5.      Who is boiling rabbits and had to be removed to get her away from children? And why didn’t you contact my friend on facebook, Joe? You guys were still friends the day that you sent this message. And why would you put this on a blog that is about Life Rocks? Do you know people get emails when a post is made?

Sociopathic behavior – what can I get from someone that I want and what can I make them take from me that I want them to have? Every transaction with Dayna is supported by that statement.

I have read in Dayna’s blog that she is receiving threatening messages and she is concerned for the safety of her and her family. If you are receiving threats, then please contact the police. No one has the right to threaten your life and the authorities should know about those or you should post them out in the open for people to see. Call them out on it! My guess is that you are not receiving these messages because I have been told by you that you love the drama and all attention is good attention, even the haters just help you right along in your quest to become stronger. Any time there is an event in your life, I believe you make up the fact that you have these aggressive haters, so you can look more important. It happened after wife swap when you asked your fans to go post on your behalf, it happened on Amazon when you asked your fans to give you sparkling reviews on your book, it happened after you were on a radio show, it happened when you were invited to speak at conferences, and it happened when you and a certain unschooling friend had words recently. I think you may have a problem with self importance. This is the message she sent me when talking about her unschooling friend that she was angry at….

Dayna Martin

I think she was influenced by one of my haters...
I have a few now and LOVE it ;)

 

Ok, so suicide threats……………..

Suicide is a very real problem and although I believe that it is the decision of the individual, I also think that we should do anything in our power to help someone that is contemplating suicide. Let me be very clear, the first suicide comment that was brought to my attention occurred on Tuesday, May 28^th, after Dayna had been gone from our home for 24 hours. The phone call I received was someone that was very concerned about her and wanted some answers. When we found this out, the person referred to as the transporter and Patti, both returned to Patti’s home to check on Dayna and intervene if necessary. The next time that I was introduced to her threatening suicide was in a conversation that occurred between Dayna and her husband. The basic overview is that she said I will just kill myself and he said no you won’t, they talked about how he was sick of her always getting what she wants and a few minutes later, suicide was threatened again and Joe blew it off. What this did was give me the impression that he was used to hearing these threats and that he did not believe her or he would have said something else or taken action by calling someone to help her at the safe house. This is a call for attention with her. She loves herself too much to do anything harmful to her own body.

So, just to be safe, you all know that I messaged her friend Josha, because she is a therapist. You know how well that went over. You also know about the message on Josha’s wall, insinuating that I did nothing for Dayna to help her. I have since spoken to another of Dayna’s friends, who is a counselor, and sent a message to Dayna to offer her services of help if they are needed at this time. The email was ignored. Josha then posted on her wall about how being bullied can lead to suicide, insinuating that she is concerned about Dayna and that I will be the cause of her suicide since I have been called a bully numerous times by those close to her. The same friend that messaged Dayna directly, also commented on Josha’s post about how to get Dayna help if she is in this much trouble. Josha said some flighty crap about us all living in our pain bodies and everyone is wrapped up in stuff that isn’t real. Huh? Didn’t you just post about bullying and suicide and then ignore that any of it matters because we are just in our “pain body”? I am officially done talking about the concern of Dayna and suicide. I think I and many others have asked enough times for her to get help. This was the response from Josha and it is now in their court……..

“I know you are trying to be helpful in a way that feels good to you. I know that when people are not their best self they can do and say some pretty crazy things. I know that many people are acting from their pain body's right now and well that's just what we do until we don't. All that I can hope is that everyone hunker down and do their own work. This whole "event" has allowed me to dig in deeper to past pain and suffering I endured as a child. If you want to continue to cut and past and post private conversations on facebook, that is absolutely your choice, if you want to have a conversation I am happy to have that. I do know that when people are not centered and they are reactive they can say and do some pretty awful things. I do know public shaming is not good for anyone. Inflaming the whole victim perpetrator dance is not something I want to participate in. I personally am grateful for my journey through this. There is so much attack and defense happening and from my perspective it's all the "stuff" that we are not that is bubbling up to the surface, now all we can do is move through it.”

Enough for now. I still have not gotten a chance to respond to her blog 2 and 3, so those will hopefully be on the next blogs. It all depends on what needs to be responded to the most. I am taking a much needed break tomorrow, so I will check back in over the weekend. Peace.

Jen