Well, here we are again and I suppose I can no
longer pretend I am done. The information that is continuing to come out in the
Clearinghouse group is no less than astounding. I cannot believe the length of
time Dayna has been using and manipulating people. I also cannot believe how
many individuals have been frightened of the Martin family; so frightened that
people have held on to things for years. It is almost like they are mob bosses
and they will put a hit out on anyone that dares to cross them, or should I
say, anyone that treats them the way they treat others. If one thing has become
clear throughout this fact checking, though, it is that unschooling will be fine.
Discovering numerous pockets of people that have never even heard of the Martin
Machine has been a wonderful side effect of this whole ordeal. Thank you again
to every single person that has come forward with information, so the full
picture can be realized and we can all go on with our lives, eventually. Know that we are
all working to leave behind a more cohesive community than what existed just a
few months ago. Unschooling rules and I don’t mean the Martin version of
unschooling, but the true, deep, need we have within us to love the world and
spread the peace. We are all working toward supporting a better world for our children
and grandchildren. For those of you who still do not understand what all the
fact checking is about, I hope you never have to find out. And for those who
are disappointed in me for supporting peace in a not so peaceful way, you hold
that burden yourself. I am doing something about it. What have you done today
to ensure that liars and manipulators are not running our lives?
As with every new blog I post, there are a few new pieces
of information that have been learned. This post is centered around an email
exchange that occurred between Patti Stephens and Dayna Martin about a week ago.
The comment that elicited this conversation was a post by Dayna herself, where
she claimed to have private conversations between her daughter and Patti’s
daughter. I have to admit that I got a little concerned. I had known that Tiff
and Syd had been talking and I also knew that Syd had claimed she was just
trying to get Dayna to talk to her and explain why she is lying about all of us
to other people. I did, for a split second, think that maybe there were
messages I had not heard of and maybe they had been deleted. Once Dayna
forwarded the conversations, I found that they were the exact thing I had
already read and said nothing like she had claimed they did.
The other topic I am covering is the fact that someone
has started a blog with a name very similar to my own and they are hacking in
to blogs belonging to others and changing the URL that links to my blog. Here is
the IP information forwarded by someone researching the incident……
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft
Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\...>nslookup
theunschoolinggreenfamily.blogspot.com
Server: homeportal
Address: 192.168.1.254
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:
blogspot.l.googleusercontent.com
Addresses: 2607:f8b0:4006:802::100c
173.194.43.11
173.194.43.10
173.194.43.12
Aliases:
theunschoolinggreenfamily.blogspot.com
C:\Users\...>nslookup
thesparklingmartins.blogspot.com
Server: homeportal
Address: 192.168.1.254
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:
blogspot.l.googleusercontent.com
Addresses: 2607:f8b0:4006:802::100a
173.194.43.10
173.194.43.11
173.194.43.12
Aliases:
thesparklingmartins.blogspot.com
get a life green
Wednesday, July 17, 2013
good grief
Good grief. Don't you have better
things to do than dig up a quarrel you had with someone months ago? Wasn't that
done and over with?
What's done is done. Move on. Go
play with your kids. You are unschoolers, right? Go be with you kids in
positive and productive ways.
And the rest of you, seriously, why
did you click on this link to begin with?
To read about gossip?? To bash someone else?? Is this what homeschoolers
do now in their free time?? Shame on you.
Before I go on to the information regarding Patti, I
would also like to share a PM that my friend Robert received from Joe. Joe had
already been blocked by Robert, so he used his other account to send it. Joe
claims that he does not bully or attack people, but there are numerous occasions
where he has done just that. Robert did not respond, but did give me permission
to share the message here. Keep in mind, Robert has done nothing to provoke
this, aside from sharing his own truth with others who have asked him…..………..
Really You're going to bully folks
too? When will this madness end? Do you all want Dayna to fuckin kill herself?
Your all grabbing at nothing. There is no FRAUD. She is still a unschooling
advocate no matter what she does on her days off. Your not seeing it like it
truly is. Your taking the word of folks that are out to get us. Picking on
project we start and don't finish. Are you fucking kidding me. How many things
have you started and just left on the shelf. My lawn is half mowed too. Want me
to take a photo so you can show that to every one. What the hell man? You think
we faked Liferocks just made all that shit up every word that was said the
whole dads group chat all just fake? You have seen part of the doc I filmed.
This is past the point of crazy. So stand on what you KNOW and not what others
have fed you.
So here is the post from Dayna where she threatened
having screenshots of messages between the two kids…..
I have screenshots of Patti's
daughter Sydney, messaging my daughter Tiffany telling her that Jen Green has
gone over their house and screamed and sworn at her telling her to write
negative accusations about me and this little girl is scared. It is beyond
abuse and manipulation.
And here is the message from Patti and the email
exchanges between Patti and Dayna…………
From Patti Stephens……
“I have debated for the better part of a week whether or
not I wanted to release my email exchange with Dayna that centered around her
using Sydni’s private conversations with her daughter, Tiffany, to try to
“discredit” Jennifer. The email exchange
speaks for itself. I have, throughout
the majority of this ordeal, just wanted it to go away. That’s how I deal with bad stuff. Just move on.
Don’t dwell on it. Find the
good. Learn from the mistakes. Period.
However, a number of things are different with this particular
situation: (1) this effected my kids,
primarily my oldest, in a HUGE way and so the moving on is not so easy, (2) the
Martins just keep on stoking the fire with denial and blame and it just doesn’t
feel right to not put the facts out there and (3) soooo many other people have
been hurt before me and the need for folks to have access to factual
information is critical so that, hopefully, others will think twice before
giving them a dime or even falling for the Martin Marketing Machine. I am not
so much concerned anymore that Dayna didn’t perform her unnanny duties.…I am
furious at the extent she and Joe seem to be going to lie, manipulate, bully
and distort any sense of the truth so that they can just continue on being “The
Martins, Unschoolers Extraordinaire”.
So, folks, here it is..I really hope I am done with this
and can move on. I totally support the
bigger picture of accountability and facts and all…I just have to let this
go. I have to remove myself for a while
and get my energy to a much higher level so I can shift us to a different path…not
a different life learning path…I still believe in it…but a different daily
path…that is about connection and love and joy and learning…not about escaping
and coping and just getting by…and wondering what the latest lie or accusation
is. We’ll be ok….and that starts with
me.”
From: Dayna Martin dayna@daynamartin.com
To: Patti Stephens patti.stephens@yahoo.comSent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: screen shots
Patti,
What is going on here? Why is all of
this being so blown up into such a hurtful thing. CPS was called on me because
of Jenn's blog. This is MY LIFE here. My children... my family.
I made some big mistakes there, but
no one deserves this. It is beyond hurtful.
I wanted to write to you to reach
out for your compassion and understanding.
I have screen shots of Tiffany and
Sydni discussing the manipulation that Jenn has used with her to get her to say
negative things about me. Tiff showed them to me. Also, Syd messaged me
personally and I told her that I wasn't comfortable talking to her unless you
were comfortable with it. We did chat briefly, and she said you wanted me to
send you an email.
I am a good person and I don't
deserve this. Please forgive me for not following through with working with
you. I said things in a drunken state that I didn't mean and I am so regretful
of that. I truly loved your family. Please let Jenn know that I have proof of
her manipulating your family and have her contact me so we can talk. Barb has
the screen shots also and they are very incriminating and will disprove some of
what Jen is claiming and show that you all were bullied and manipulated into
speaking out against me. Before I went public with them, I wanted to reach out
and try to go a kinder route and see what unfolded.
Thank you and please, call me so we
can talk or email so we can work this out and move forward.
Love, Dayna
Also, Patti... I don't want to hurt
Syd. Tiff promised her, which is seen on the several screen shots, that she
wouldn't tell anyone what Syd told Tiff. I just want this all to end and work
it out in a way that it should be dealt with... privately. Tiff did say,
however that she is willing to allow them to be posted publicly so people can
know the truth of this aspect of the story/blog.
From: patti.stephens@yahoo.com
To: dayna@daynamartin.comSent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: screen shots
"I, quite frankly, am stunned at your
email. On so many levels. So I will dissect your email and address your
specific questions/comments in the order of importance to me:"
“Also, Patti... I don't want to hurt
Syd. Tiff promised her, which is seen on the several screen shots, that she
wouldn't tell anyone what Syd told Tiff. I just want this all to end and work
it out in a way that it should be dealt with... privately. Tiff did say, however
that she is willing to allow them to be posted publicly so people can know the
truth of this aspect of the story/blog.”
“Sydni's well being, as that of my
other children, is of my utmost concern.
Really, Dayna, if you truly don't want to hurt Sydni, you would not have
even sent this email. Publishing her and
Tiffany's private conversation wouldn't even be a thought. Sydni has already
been hurt..in ways this mother never, ever could have imagined. The behaviors I needed help with... (anger
due to her feelings of abandonment, lies, manipulation, adults saying one thing
and doing something else) you simply contributed to. Her desperation to try to connect with you
via Tiffany...to try to gain some closure...to know you were ok...to try to
gain some understanding that you really did care about her...that was her
intent in talking to Tiffany since you unfriended her and she could not speak
with you directly??? How in the hell can
you tell me you have Sydni's well being at heart when you disconnected yourself
from her almost immediately after leaving here?? And you now want to publish their
conversation to try to make some point about Jen to the larger
community??? I think not. You may have Tiffany's permission but you
don't have Sydni's...”
“I have screen shots of Tiffany and
Sydni discussing the manipulation that Jenn has used with her to get her to say
negative things about me. Tiff showed them to me......Please let Jenn know that
I have proof of her manipulating your family and have her contact me so we can
talk. Barb has the screen shots also and they are very incriminating and will
disprove some of what Jen is claiming and show that you all were bullied and
manipulated into speaking out against me. Before I went public with them, I
wanted to reach out and try to go a kinder route and see what unfolded”
“THIS feels so threatening and
manipulative to me. I have read the
entire conversation between Tiffany and Sydni.
NOWHERE in there did Sydni say or even imply that Jen was "bullying
and manipulating any of us into speaking out against me". Nowhere!!!
Did she say Jen yelled? Yes.
Period. And that Jen said you are a
"motherfucking liar..that motherfucker is who has been lying to
everyone". And for the record,
neither of us has been bullied, coerced, manipulated in any shape form or
fashion to speak our truth. What I see
in those PM's is your daughter desperately trying to make the pain and sadness
in her home stop. Sydni is not
responsible for this. I am not responsible for this. Jen is not responsible for this. Your choices, regardless of how regretful or
shameful or damaging, are responsible for this.
You get to control that, not us.
I am not responsible for Jen's truth but I completely support her in
sharing her truth just as I would welcome and support you sharing your truth.”
“Also, Syd messaged me personally
and I told her that I wasn't comfortable talking to her unless you were
comfortable with it. We did chat briefly, and she said you wanted me to send
you an email.”
“As much as I wanted to
"control" Sydni's conversations with you at times, I would never do
this. Sydni has been hurt and she loves
you and she believed in you and how you could help our family. I knew/ know she needs to grieve in her own
way and try to find the resolution and closure for herself. I fully support this if it means talking to
you. That she had to beg and beg and beg (which is obvious from those PM's) is
heartbreaking to say the least. My "comfort" is irrelevant in this
instance though I do appreciate your checking with her. I actually told Sydni
that if you wanted to chat with me, it would be fine to email. That was last Friday. Honestly, I feel if you had wanted to just
chat with me to "clear the air" you would have done that sooner and
not in the context of "I have incriminating private FB messages between
our kids".....”
Dayna:
“I wanted to write to you to reach
out for your compassion and understanding.”
“You have NO IDEA how much
compassion I have for your children...understanding for the bigger picture is
much harder to come by. I hurt for your
children because they are simply the victims of the choices of their
parents. It took me a while after you
left to even begin to understand the magnitude of all this. I did this on my
own (no pressure from Jen or anyone else)...reading story after story of people
who had experiences with you long before me...some personal, some
professional. This obviously was not an
isolated instance and that allowed me to put it all into its proper
perspective.”
“I am a good person and I don't
deserve this. Please forgive me for not following through with working with
you. I said things in a drunken state that I didn't mean and I am so regretful
of that. I truly loved your family.”
“I have forgiven you. It is the only thing that allows me to move
forward, heal, and continue on our unschooling path.”
“What is going on here? Why is all
of this being so blown up into such a hurtful thing. CPS was called on me
because of Jenn's blog. This is MY LIFE here. My children... my family.”
“What is going on here in my opinion? The truth continues to elude you. Me, personally...so willing to forgive and
move on...bad experience...your personal life crossed into your professional
life...you made a mistake...you will go home and take responsibility and make
amends and seek the help you obviously need (from the behaviors and
conversations that took place in my home).
But you didn't, Dayna. You made
it about all of us. "Our family was
a trauma case". "I just hired
you to get the kids off my back and get a break." "You bit off more than you could
chew". (even though you knew exactly the dynamics after the first
visit). And the blaming and lack of
responsibility or ownership just continues and continues with each post. Again, I cannot do ANYTHING to fix that. You can. So for your children...your
family...I hope from the depths of my soul you can find a way to deal in
truth...real truth...not the truth you want folks to believe...YOUR
TRUTH...because "what is going on here" will not change until that
happens. Patti “
From: Dayna Martin <dayna@daynamartin.com>
To: patti.stephens@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: screen shots
Patti, I was trying to do the right
thing per advice from Barb Lundgren to reach out to you via email and share
that I had the screen shots. I am sorry you are feeling angry and took this in
the way it wasn't intended. I send you love and healing. Dayna
From:
patti.stephens@yahoo.com
To: Dayna Martin
<dayna@daynamartin.com>Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: screen shots
Dayna: I am actually feeling much better,
thanks:-) Did you really expect me to
not be upset that you are dragging my 10 year old into your public personal
experience? What you are using my daughter for is to try to discredit your
personal relationship with Jen (which has nothing to do with either me or
Sydni). I think your intention was
"before I went public with them, I wanted to reach out and try to go a
kinder route and see what unfolded."
I truly don't know how much more of a kinder route you wanted from
me. I still hope you will do the right
thing. Patti
As I was writing this, my daughter, Taylor (Sydni…note
she has decided she wants to change her name for a fresh start and because she
feels it fits her more) wanted to say something so her thoughts and feelings
will close our part of this blog out:
Taylor (Sydni):
First of all, I think that Dayna is the best example of a
fraud. PERIOD. Of course some of you think I’m lying, but I’m not. My
experience with “Dayna Martin” was something I wish never happened. You didn’t
see Jenn, how horrible she felt, that was real. How Dayna was acting. WAS AND
IS SO FAKE. I can’t believe I thought she loved me, cared about me, here is
just a small piece of her trying to get rid of me:
Dayna Martin
I didn't unfriend youI don't want you to get into trouble
so we can say goodbye
Taylor Stephens
Ok??
Dayna Martin
I want to respect your Momand you
Taylor Stephens
R u sure its cause u don't want to talk to me
Dayna Martin
Of course not. I know you didn't do anything wrong.No matter what, I will always hold you in a special place in my heart
I am sorry that I did anything to hurt your family
I am sending love to you all.
So umm, yeah, tell me what that shit sounds like?? BTW
what Dayna said about those screenshots, Jenn didn’t and won’t EVER force me to
do ANYTHING……EVER. Tiff actually told me and kept telling me to friend, and
message Dayna…..umm HELLO?!?!?!?!?! WTF?!?!?! YOU MESSAGE ME! YOU FRIEND ME!
WOW. She was too lazy to go to MY PAGE, FRIEND ME, AND MESSAGE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just want you to know, I feel like a bitch trusting her, and Jenn’s just
trying to help people not make the same mistake my family did. LETTING DAYNA IN
OUR HOME.
Taylor
